Currently Supports
Cheetah MS6(7)
Fender Chroma Polaris
Kawai K3m
Korg DSS-1,DW-6000(1), DW-8000/EX-8000, M1
KiwiTechnics Kiwi3P Upgrade
KiwiTechnics KiwiSix Upgrade
Roland JX-3P(2), MKS-30(2)
MKS-30 JH Midi Mod(3)
Juno 1, 2, 106, MKS-7, MKS-50, MKS-70(4)
Roland MKS-80, JX-8P(5), JX-10(6)
Oberheim Matrix 6 & 6R(9), Oberheim Matrix 1000(9)
Organix 3P Midi Upgrade
Sequential Circuits SixTrak, Max(7)
Studio Electronics ATC/X(10)
Waldorf Pulse, Q/Q+ MicroQ(10), MicroWave I (OS2)(10)
Moog Slim & Little Phatty
MidiCC to Sysex translation
Price is US$495 + Freight
Price is US$495 + freight. NZ Sales will incur 15% GST.
Freight cost to USA, Hong Kong, Japan, UK & most of Europe is US$60, Australia is US$38 (tracked and insured)
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Concepts
The Patch Editor has been designed for easy 'live' use with many of the older keyboards with easy to
use controls for every synth type. Every active control will light up to make fast changes simple and
buttons are colour coded depending which state is active. Each control that is changed will clearly
identify itself on the display.
There was a stage when most of the keyboards manufactures went
thought a process of removing all the knobs and replacing them
with a parameter driven system. Anyone who has used one will
know how difficult it is to use, especially live. When the complaints started arriving some started
making plug in patch editors. The problem with these is they only worked on one type of
keyboard and were (and still are) expensive and rare. The 'Patch Editor' can be used in place of
a PG-200 (with an easily made cable), PG-300, PG-800 (with an easily made cable) and MPG-
80 as well as handle midi control of midi and sysex capable keyboards. It includes an internet
update system for software changes or new keyboards support, and includes an external input
that can be mapped to any continuous control and all the active controls light up to make it easy
to use.
Each control in each synth is kept in lookup tables. This approach has made the Patch Editor very versatile and flexible.
Some of the features are:
•
Can translate midiCC to the currently selected patch. This will allow any synth to be controlled via midiCC for software that
does not support sysex. One midiCC command for filter cutoff adjust, for instance, will output the correct codes for filter cutoff
adjust for any selected synth.
•
Can control both the Upper & Lower Tone boards in the MKS-70 & MKS-80 from the Patch Editor directly separately or
combined. Note, the MKS-70 needs the latest system ROM (v1.08).
•
Every control identifies itself and it's value on the display in real time. This is important when unused controls are reassigned
as is done in some synth types.
•
Each synth type has a separate synth midi channel which is remembered. The Patch Editor also has a midi channel for it's
own midiCC control.
•
All switch positions are remembered for each synth type.
•
The ext input allows control of any one variable parameter from an external voltage source. For example a foot pedal could be
used to control the filter cut off much like a waa waa pedal might.
•
The control lights can be dimmed to suit current light levels.
•
Top quality components have been used throughout. This has added to the price but you get something that will work well
when it is supposed to and will last.
Power supply required is 9-12vDC with a minimum of 500mA and the Patch Editor has reverse polarity protection built in. 9vDC @
500mA is the preferred supply voltage.
The plug required for power connection is a DC style 2.5mm ID, 5.5mm OD and 10-14mm shaft length with positive on the inside.
This IPad / Laptop Stand sold here fits the PE well.
use controls for every synth type. Every active control will light up to make fast changes simple and
buttons are colour coded depending which state is active. Each control that is changed will clearly
identify itself on the display.
There was a stage when most of the keyboards manufactures went
thought a process of removing all the knobs and replacing them
with a parameter driven system. Anyone who has used one will
know how difficult it is to use, especially live. When the complaints started arriving some started
making plug in patch editors. The problem with these is they only worked on one type of
keyboard and were (and still are) expensive and rare. The 'Patch Editor' can be used in place of
a PG-200 (with an easily made cable), PG-300, PG-800 (with an easily made cable) and MPG-
80 as well as handle midi control of midi and sysex capable keyboards. It includes an internet
update system for software changes or new keyboards support, and includes an external input
that can be mapped to any continuous control and all the active controls light up to make it easy
to use.
Each control in each synth is kept in lookup tables. This approach has made the Patch Editor very versatile and flexible.
Some of the features are:
•
Can translate midiCC to the currently selected patch. This will allow any synth to be controlled via midiCC for software that
does not support sysex. One midiCC command for filter cutoff adjust, for instance, will output the correct codes for filter cutoff
adjust for any selected synth.
•
Can control both the Upper & Lower Tone boards in the MKS-70 & MKS-80 from the Patch Editor directly separately or
combined. Note, the MKS-70 needs the latest system ROM (v1.08).
•
Every control identifies itself and it's value on the display in real time. This is important when unused controls are reassigned
as is done in some synth types.
•
Each synth type has a separate synth midi channel which is remembered. The Patch Editor also has a midi channel for it's
own midiCC control.
•
All switch positions are remembered for each synth type.
•
The ext input allows control of any one variable parameter from an external voltage source. For example a foot pedal could be
used to control the filter cut off much like a waa waa pedal might.
•
The control lights can be dimmed to suit current light levels.
•
Top quality components have been used throughout. This has added to the price but you get something that will work well
when it is supposed to and will last.
Power supply required is 9-12vDC with a minimum of 500mA and the Patch Editor has reverse polarity protection built in. 9vDC @
500mA is the preferred supply voltage.
The plug required for power connection is a DC style 2.5mm ID, 5.5mm OD and 10-14mm shaft length with positive on the inside.
This IPad / Laptop Stand sold here fits the PE well.
Here is an independent review (in German).
Here is an independent review from SOS.
Note - The Power Pack is not included (see user manual)
It is possible to use MidiCC to control any synth that the Patch Editor supports.
“..Also, a new super cool feature for the PE is that you can control it via standard MIDI CC. This means, if you use a DAW like Live that does not support
SYSEX (I do), you can now program SYSEX synths like the MKS80 using CC to the PE, which then sends the SYSEX. There is no setup involved as each
knob/slider has a dedicated CC (Cutoff is 33 for example). So, whether you are controlling a MKS80, a MW1 or a Moog Phatty, the cutoff is always CC33..
Very cool..” Paul - UK
SYSEX (I do), you can now program SYSEX synths like the MKS80 using CC to the PE, which then sends the SYSEX. There is no setup involved as each
knob/slider has a dedicated CC (Cutoff is 33 for example). So, whether you are controlling a MKS80, a MW1 or a Moog Phatty, the cutoff is always CC33..
Very cool..” Paul - UK
Notes
(1)
The DW-6000 has problems with midi channels other than 1
(2)
A Special cable is required which is detailed in the User Manual. PEs with s/n 001000-001108 require a hardware modification. Use PE v5.0.
v5.1 or later does not support the PG-200 interface
(3)
Requires PE v5.1 or higher
(4)
The MKS-70 needs the latest version of system code (v1.08) to run correctly. This is available from KiwiTechnics, Synthparts, Vintage Planet or
Roland. It only necessary to change the A Rom if on v1.04 or later. For v1.03 or older you will require the A, B & C Roms.
(5)
The 8P can be run via midi (preferred as it performs better) or using the PG-800 interface with a special cable. To use the PG-800 interface the
PE must be set to v5.0. The PG-800 patch is not supported in v5.1 or higher.
(6)
The JX-10 can be run as an MKS-70 with the Colin Fraser JX-10SE code fitted or through the PG-800 connector with a special cable. To use the
PG-800 interface the PE must be set to v5.0. The PG-800 patch is not supported in v5.1 or higher.
(7)
The SC Max uses the Sixtrak patch but not all Sixtrak controls are supported by the Max. See the user manual for details.
(8)
The Cheetah MS6 requires program v1.3 and details can be found at the Cheetah MS6 Resource Center
(9)
The Mx6,6r&1000 control is not suitable for live use as the Mx6,6r&1000 are not able to process sysex data quickly enough. This will cause
hanging notes and other random midi errors. Not all controls work correctly due to midi errors in the Oberheims. M6&6R require PE v4.7 or
higher.
(10)
Requires PE v4.5 or higher.
I must say that your PE really gave life to my EX 8000 and that I enjoyed it so much that I also bought the keyboard version. Alex - France
I've been having a lot of fun with this [3P] upgrade + patch editor. It's really an amazing achievement, thanks again for this. It's amazing to program with,
really happy. Matthew U.K.
Patch editor rocks. Use it on my sixtrak and jx10. Tom - Belgium
I got the Patch editor and it works fantastic!!! great tool, big respect and keep it on!!! Sandro - Switzerland
I have been really enjoying the patch editor - it has been working great and is a lot of fun. Ian - USA
I’ve tested the Little Phaaty patch. Its awesome, really nice patch. thanks. - Thorsten - Germany
The patch editor is a wonderful interface for controlling the MKS-70. I'm really enjoying it. Erik - USA
Your editor works very well and it looks so nice. My wife said:”It looks great, get another five!”. You did a great job! Thomas - Germany
I love my PE. Philippe - France
wow...jx8p and pe = massive synth. Thorsten - Germany
Thanks a lot for the quick fix. Makes it more and more a joy to use. Fantastic product + support if I didn't mention it before :) Steffen- Germany
I'm really digging this thing and I recommend it to everyone. Bradley - USA
Received my patch editor about two weeks ago, and it is amazing. You have designed a product that both functions perfectly and couldn't be easier to use.
Graham - USA
Loving the PE! Steve - UK
Loving my unit, using it solely for a MKS-80. Thank you! Justin - Australia
Would like to thank you for the fantastic 3P upgrade and the ultra fantastic patch editor ! I replaced all my hardware programmers.....PG 200, 300, 800,
Access Microwave 1, your's works much better and looks much better also. John - Holland
So far, I've only tried it out editing a JX8P and an Alpha Juno2, and let me say that I am extremely satisfied, and more than a little bit impressed. I'd used
other hardware controllers (Behringer BCR2000 for example), which did the job, but required extensive setting up and more often than not left a handful of
parameters un-editable due to lack of knobs. Having a dedicated unit such as the PE, capable of controlling multiple synths on one MIDI chain at the push of
a button, seriously is almost a dream come true. Scott - Japan
Thanks for the goods - excellent service. Patch editor working wonderfully - nice one. Dominic - UK
I got the PE. Love it! Only tried it with my Matrix 6 so far, but its amazing. Really opens things up. Thanks again. Nate - USA
the patch editor has arrived and works fine with all my gear (JX8P, JX10, Alpha Juno 2, Matrix 1000, Pulse etc.), it looks like a spaceship-control --> very
good work i must say. Thanks for the smooth transaction and the tank-like packaging. York - Germany
this controller is awesome, beautiful and robust! thank you again. Gerome - Belgium
I meant to email you about my KiwiTechnics Patch Editor - it arrived here in Canada 4 . . . FOUR!!! . . . days after I paid you. I don't even know how that's
possible. AND IT ROCKS!. James - Canada
Just wanted to let you know that I have received the patch editor and it works like a charm, what a brilliant piece of hardware! Can't wait to get my hands on
some other synths that it supports :) Niklas - Sweden
just wanted to say thanks for sending the Patch Editor so quickly. Also thanks for creating such a great device which will make things much easier to edit on
the supported synths. I love it already and only had it for a couple of hours! Easy to use, great look and built quality. Keep up the good work. Heiko - Australia
Just a quick note to say I received my Patch Editor today and put it into immediate use in the studio. It's one of those bits of gear which makes you wonder
why no one has done this before now - simple and brilliant in equal amounts. Build quality is excellent unlike so many products these days. I have it plugged
into my eMagic AMT8 midi interface and route it via Logic 9 to my various synths. I found straight off the bat it worked really well with my DW8000 and Slim
Phatty. Nick - UK
Package turned up last Friday - about 80 hours after the funds would have turned up in your account - very quick. The PE is just amazing - makes my MKS-
70 knob tweaking heaven. Many thanks. PS love the magnet strips on the base - very handy. Andrew - Australia
Just wanted to let you know that I think the Kiwi PE is a fantastic piece of equipment. My Six-Trak really came alive with the Kiwi. It's brilliant. All in all it's a
really cool thing you've got going here! thanks. Patrik - Sweden
This is one sturdy and functional unit which is really getting to the guts of the parameters of my EX8000 and DW6000 without going through pages on the
front panel of the synths. Tim - Australia
Just a quick note to tell you how we (me and my band) are really enjoying the patch editor. You now have two more big time fans in Michigan. We have used
it (and never had so much fun) with my JX-8P and Matrix 1000. Wes - USA
I absolutely love the kiwi PE!!! I use it on my mks70, sci max, matrix 6, matrix 1000, kawai k3m, mks7, dw8000, dw6000, juno 2, and slim phatty and it works
perfectly! I don’t know what I would do without it!! Dallas - USA
Picked up the Patch Editor from the post the other day. Got it hooked up to the Kiwi-3P and I'm seriously impressed. I always knew it was powerful but
having access directly at your finger tips is a revelation. I'm really digging the random arp and sample/hold features. Jim - USA
I just wanted to say thanks for promptly shipping the PE. I'm really, really enjoying it. So far, I've only tried it out on my Juno-2, but it's breathed new life into
that synth for sure! Plus, the build quality of the PE is really exceptional. Worth every penny. Aaron - USA
The patch editor is fantastic! Tried it with ex8000, K3m and MKS50 so far - sits comfortably on top of a Nord Lead 3! Adam - UK
I like this enough that I am having a hole routed in my walnut desk so that this sits recessed to my left. Sold my PG800 and nearly covered the cost, yet this
also controls my Matrix 6R and Chroma Polaris, it was a no brainer. Jesse - USA
I am really enjoying the Patch Editor and have used it live several times….the sound control and feedback with the JX-10 is simply fantastic… Walt - USA
